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Pinned Thread: Consensus on usage of "Catherine" vs. "Kate", "Kate Middleton"

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The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.


The Wikipedia Community has reached a consensus on "Catherine" vs "Kate" in favor of Catherine. Please do not post threads on this subject without at least reading the following threads:

There are numerous additional threads on this subject in the archives as well. Safiel (talk)

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Isn't "Catherine, Princess of Wales" the title of a divorced Princess?

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Shouldn't she formally be referred to as "The Princess of Wales" as per Debrett's and the Royal Family website?

The same goes for Prince William. Anythingidontevencare (talk) 16:53, 2 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

No! Wikipedia naming issues can be complex, but we are not obliged to use someone's official name as might be used in very formal contexts. PatGallacher (talk) 17:23, 2 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Oh, I see. Thanks. Anythingidontevencare (talk) 18:05, 2 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

She is not of Wales

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She is from England. 2A0A:EF40:132A:A201:7CBB:D5DA:BA6E:B824 (talk) 19:45, 8 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

So is her husband. But Prince of Wales is a royal title, not an address. Martinevans123 (talk) 20:00, 8 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Correct, William Windsor is not 9f Wales either. 2A0A:EF40:132A:A201:7CBB:D5DA:BA6E:B824 (talk) 21:31, 9 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
There we go then. All agreed. Martinevans123 (talk) 21:53, 9 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

'More than' v 'over'

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I have been 'advised' to raise this topic here, as, apparently, my edits do not constitute improvement.

I believe that, in the same way that 'amount' v 'number' and 'less' v 'fewer' should be used for non-count and count nouns, respectively, 'over' v 'more than' falls into the same category. Of course, this has proved somewhat contentious, as the most trivial matters usually are, resulting in reverts for reasons such as 'Fowler's Modern English Usage notes that in British English, over has long been accepted with numbers, making it perfectly correct and often preferred'; however, I take Fowler to be one in a very long line of English usage analysts, whose stipulations ought not to be adopted as Wikipedia policy on a whim. Moreover, I should add that I have been thanked for doing this same change on other articles, suggesting that I am not the only one to have this view about the grammatical aspect.

I should be interested in hearing others' views on this, because I get the marked feeling that the reverts are more about retaining perceived ownership of an article rather than any real objection to the phrasing. ZeroAlpha87 (talk) 14:13, 15 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

According to Cambridge,
  • Over means ‘more than’ a particular number, or limit. Example-There were over 100 people at the meeting.
[1] Velworth (talk) 16:58, 15 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
'Velworth' being MSincccc under a different name...
And 'more than' cannot mean the same thing in that example? ZeroAlpha87 (talk) 17:01, 15 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]