Talk:Sciences Po
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NPOV / Article written like a brochure
[edit]I made some statements more neutral and removed it when the same partnerships were repeated several times for each campus. There is still much detail that does not seem to fit with WP and that seem to come directly from the brochure (all the activities, etc.). Regarding the reverts, please look at my talk page. --Delfield (talk) 13:39, 31 March 2021 (UTC)
- Agree, seems like a massive amount of COI editing going on here.--VVikingTalkEdits 14:06, 28 October 2022 (UTC)
Reputation and criticism section
[edit]I would suggest that this section should be revisited for grammar and cherry-picking. (In terms of grammar, to mention just one of the major problems: the conditional is not used to mean "allegedly" or "said to be" in English.) After fixing one sentence, I realized I should not get involved as the subpar language serves as an effective warning to readers not to take the section seriously. -- SashiRolls 🌿 · 🍥 20:34, 15 October 2023 (UTC)
- I concur. The page is full of cherry-picking and is clearly the subject of POV-pushing. Any two-day "scandal" is/was reported on the page, no matter how anecdotal or derisory. I have deleted what is anecdotal to keep core (sourced) information, but there is still a lot of work to be done. EricDuflot1968 (talk) 03:09, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
As Talk said, there is a massive amount of COI editing here. The pro-Palestine protest issues have been on French TV and newspapers for weeks, with MPs physically involved and massive coverage by politicians and intellectuals, but it has been removed. The current version is a consensus established as neutral after huge debates, with many reverts by admins after a series of POV-pushing of the sort. If you find some information not well put, feel free to reformulate fairly, rather than deleting please. --Delfield (talk) 18:54, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- No. This Wikipedia page was a laughable illustration of what POV-pushing is. Allow me to remind you that, according to, POV-pushing "describe[s] the aggressive presentation of a particular point of view in an article". This is exactly how the page was.
- (1) It put Olivier Duhamel, a rapist and ex professor at the university, at the absolute forefront of the page. This preponderance is not justified. While Duhamel was indeed a professor and the president of the National Foundation of Political Science, this page is about the university itself. Why would one out of six images on this university's page be one of Olivier Duhamel, when the Duhamel scandal has its own page?
- (2) The page resorted to anecdotes. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia. This page and this encyclopedia are not the right place to list any and every protest that happened at Sciences Po, or any two-day scandal that have no long-term consequence/repercussion. The sources do not indicate that the event is notable on the long term. If you want them to stay, please provide sources indicating that the event is notable on the long term. Otherwise, it is an anecdote and does not have its place here.
- (3) I deleted unsourced sentences. These sentences were for most indicated with a "Citation needed". If you want them to remain on the article, please provide a source.
- (4) I deleted useless information that only made the page longer. Mathias Vicherat is described as "former CEO of Danone, former spokesman of the French National Railways Network and former deputy cabinet director of the Mayor in Paris". That information can be found on Mathias Vicherat.
- (5) Exactly as you suggested, is "reformulate[d] fairly" the paragraphs about "Reputation and criticism", which were clearly written in a non-neutral way.
- Overall, I have to agree with @SashiRolls. The page was laughably bad and I was tempted to not change anything; the bad grammar already made it clear that it was misleading. There is no other way to look at it than to admit that it was not neutral, not balanced, and intended to depict that university in the least favorable way possible. I will call on administrators if such content again appears on the page. EricDuflot1968 (talk) 00:17, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
Proposed merge of List of notable Sciences Po academics into Sciences Po
[edit]The topic of "Academics from Science Po" doesn't seem notable enough for a stand-alone list. jlwoodwa (talk) 18:23, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
Merger complete. Klbrain (talk) 11:33, 20 June 2024 (UTC)
Rename Article
[edit]Would it not be preferable to change the opening sentence, to reflect the original French article, to: Paris Institute of Political Studies, also known as Sciences Po (French: [sjɑ̃s po]) or Sciences Po Paris.
Also to change the title from Sciences Po to Paris Institute of Political Studies, again to reflect the French article. Tanneryvillage (talk) 14:07, 8 March 2025 (UTC)
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